tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post8776773838690291129..comments2024-01-13T18:35:19.562-08:00Comments on Backpacking Dad: If MomLogic.com sucked, how would you know?Backpacking Dadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02498905428420679901noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-14797319829784154022008-10-05T19:57:00.000-07:002008-10-05T19:57:00.000-07:00I love this hit you get when you Google 'momlogic'...I love this hit you get when you Google 'momlogic':<BR/><BR/>Momlogic - for thinking moms who don't have time to think.<BR/><BR/>Now how could there possibly be a thinking person, mom or otherwise, who didn't have time to think?<BR/><BR/>Oh, I see now. Read our carefully veiled right-wing non-sense, no need to think!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-3620797359474583772008-06-03T22:30:00.000-07:002008-06-03T22:30:00.000-07:00Well played. Well played.Well played. Well played.VDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04542535234309505428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-9199716821736121912008-06-02T13:01:00.000-07:002008-06-02T13:01:00.000-07:00Babyshrink: Cheers to that.stranahan: Yep. Althoug...Babyshrink: Cheers to that.<BR/><BR/>stranahan: Yep. Although as it turns out, their justification isn't that they're being criticized; their justification is an interpretation of a non-disclosure clause. But you can bet their reason is the criticism.<BR/><BR/>geekmommy: I wanted to title this post "my wife is a civil litigator; bring it on", but I went in a different direction :}<BR/><BR/>jessica: I can't even keep up with Twitter, and I've only been on for an hour. It's madness!<BR/><BR/>anonymous: I don't know that I'd retract anything unless I thought it was wrong. If someone sent me a C&D I'd try to figure out if I had lied about something. And then I'd tell them to go to hell. :}<BR/><BR/>amy: it sure does.Backpacking Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498905428420679901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-50089453481554332772008-06-02T12:16:00.000-07:002008-06-02T12:16:00.000-07:00Wow, found my way over here via Twitter. That is t...Wow, found my way over here via Twitter. That is the craziest thing I ever heard. I am so sorry she had to go through that- that really sucks!Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10635304837180578317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-10895344738157519262008-06-02T12:11:00.000-07:002008-06-02T12:11:00.000-07:00Great post. Blogging = Editorial OpinionReporting ...Great post. <BR/>Blogging = Editorial Opinion<BR/>Reporting News = Fact (most of the time)<BR/>Next time try posting a retraction and leave the original up. Claim to follow the standards set for the established world of media. That should take some time to figure out.<BR/>tbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-39370846756746221022008-06-02T11:38:00.001-07:002008-06-02T11:38:00.001-07:00Wow, all I can say is wow. I just recently starte...Wow, all I can say is wow. I just recently started reading MomLogic and thought it was a pretty good site. Then I started hearing rumblings on Twitter that my first impression may not have been accurate.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13926927044921344005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-85823402131825477722008-06-02T11:38:00.000-07:002008-06-02T11:38:00.000-07:00I love this post!I suppose I'm lucky - by accident...I love this post!<BR/><BR/>I suppose I'm lucky - by accident of birth and all - I have amazing attorneys in the family. Especially since they're high-powered civil litigators.<BR/><BR/>The one and only time someone ever sent me a C&D - they replied directing all further conversation to go through my attorneys - strangely, the only further communication was 'our client has decided that this does not violate their interests at this point and withdraws their C&D request.'<BR/><BR/>It only pays to be a bully if you have a subject who is easily bullied.<BR/>I'm sorry for Stefanie - and sorry for MomLogic - because in the end, they will push up against the wrong blogger if they continue with that kind of tactic.GeekMommyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06698625225958351997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-10346171391605817552008-06-02T11:15:00.000-07:002008-06-02T11:15:00.000-07:00Great summary, thanks.There's no way that C&D is e...Great summary, thanks.<BR/><BR/>There's no way that C&D is enforceable unless there's lying libel or something. Criticism is protected speech.Stranahanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03976464714465347307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-72217717153461347742008-06-01T10:29:00.000-07:002008-06-01T10:29:00.000-07:00Yeah, it's the wild, wild west out here online. Co...Yeah, it's the wild, wild west out here online. Companies get started, change, quit, and the lawyers run to catch up with whatever's happening out in cyberspace. I love Stefanie and would guess that since she's now got two books out (and counting), and MomLogic can't seem to find a stable readership, she'll come out on top anyway!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-82073428328142102382008-05-29T10:58:00.000-07:002008-05-29T10:58:00.000-07:00laurel dawn: it's a small bloggy world. I love Ali...laurel dawn: it's a small bloggy world. I love Ali's site.<BR/><BR/>catnip: twitter chatter...ugh. Am I going to have to start a twitter account just to keep up with all of the cool kids?Backpacking Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498905428420679901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-39648746564843440282008-05-29T06:11:00.000-07:002008-05-29T06:11:00.000-07:00Good for you! I saw that post before she took it d...Good for you! I saw that post before she took it down. It wasn't long after that I started seeing twitter chatter about people unfollowing them in droves. It wasn't hard to figure out why!AnnetteKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08934735163312719435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-86116701398546407242008-05-29T06:01:00.000-07:002008-05-29T06:01:00.000-07:00Wow. Interesting post. I was following the momlogi...Wow. Interesting post. <BR/>I was following the momlogic stuff on stefanie's site, but came here from Cheaper than Therapy on a fluke.<BR/>Anyway ...<BR/>I agree with you. <BR/>She should be able to say what she wants.<BR/>I happen to like my work (and I'm mat leave) and being Canadian our laws are different anyway. But, since I've signed the confidentiality stuff I don't use the name of my company at all.<BR/>I work in the department that does all the web searches (and blog searches) for name recognition, and I just don't want to get into hot water. I'm really hesitant to say anything about work at all.<BR/>But, having said that, I like my job and the company is good to me.<BR/>If I hated it, I would not hesitate. (and I have no idea how they'd reciprocate!)Laural Dawnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08459584652802529868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-30659752487436469172008-05-28T16:31:00.000-07:002008-05-28T16:31:00.000-07:00stefanie: Your secret is safe with me ;} And, uh, ...stefanie: Your secret is safe with me ;} And, uh, how would they know you've been commenting about them over here unless they were checking up? Oh...hang on....they <I>are</I> checking up. :}<BR/><BR/>Whether you violated a non-disclosure agreement or not isn't even really the issue. Because if you had divulged top-secret conversations in a post that also <I>lauded</I> them you can damn betcha that you'd never have heard from an attorney about it. The difference-maker, then, is the bad taste you had in your mouth, and <I>that's</I> what inspired the C&D tactic. So, they can try to <I>justify</I> their bullying tactic with an appeal to an agreement that they think you violated, but their <I>reason</I> for bullying is just juvenile. As juvenile as the high school bullies who can't keep up with the smart kid.Backpacking Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498905428420679901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-38435874504723515392008-05-28T14:25:00.000-07:002008-05-28T14:25:00.000-07:00I may just be in love with you now!! Don't tell yo...I may just be in love with you now!! Don't tell you wife though or she may send me a C & D letter as well. <BR/><BR/>The thing is, as I told you but in case it interests anyone reading these comments, they are saying I signed a confidentiality agreement (I did) and apparently, thinking their site and business practice sucks ass is confidential! I don't think that telling my reading how they dumped me after doing a ton of extra work for them upfront before they even relaunched was confidential but I'm not a lawyer and it seems a little late in the game to go to law school. And yes, I did take the second post down because I didn't want to deal with ANOTHER C & D letter from all the comments from other people who hate their site. I wonder if they can send me a C & D letter for commenting on YOUR blog. I guess we'll find out.BabyonBoredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05988664515214410933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-83527129847254821292008-05-28T08:58:00.000-07:002008-05-28T08:58:00.000-07:00Redneck Mommy: and the mystery of why Boo can't ge...Redneck Mommy: and the mystery of why Boo can't get no luvin' has just been solved. :}Backpacking Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498905428420679901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-79745317286029622842008-05-28T08:44:00.000-07:002008-05-28T08:44:00.000-07:00Hmmm.As hard as I try to annoy people, I've rarely...Hmmm.<BR/><BR/>As hard as I try to annoy people, I've rarely ever been trolled or faced with a C&D letter.<BR/><BR/>I must try harder.<BR/><BR/>I'm not big on corporate bullies. I love them just about as much as I love the conservative politicians my husband keeps voting for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-28716013914893583992008-05-28T00:19:00.000-07:002008-05-28T00:19:00.000-07:00swanny: You're right. For the past ten years I've ...swanny: You're right. For the past ten years I've allowed George Lucas and Steven Spielberg to get away with changing their old movies and ruining their old franchises. No more, I say! Incidentally, I just saw Indiana Jones and I wish I had my $4.75 back.<BR/><BR/>jenn: Wherever you say!<BR/><BR/>headless mom: you have friends like me.<BR/><BR/>creative-type dad: I wouldn't be surprised. It's not too expensive to draft a cease and desist letter. And it doesn't commit you to anything later, so it's a one-time cost. Kind of. If you rely on it as a form of communication, then no one is going to talk to you anymore. And that's a cost.<BR/><BR/>whit: I'm so jealous that you've met Stefanie. And a <I>sober</I> Stefanie too :}<BR/><BR/>heather: Crap indeed. Allegedly :}<BR/><BR/>Danielle: In the event that I am ever sent a C&D by anyone, really, I'm going to post it. I don't like bullies, and I've never heard of a C&D that wasn't loaded up with threatening language. They're never just "Please stop whatever you are doing; we think it's wrong and hope that you will see reason." I might actually think about listening to someone who wrote that kind of letter instead.<BR/><BR/>madwomanmeg: That's what I'm here for.<BR/><BR/>aunt becky: am I not trolling enough? Crap. I need to start in on some personal attacks or something.<BR/><BR/>miss grace: you contact a punchy attorney who likes pro bono work. Every big law firm takes pro bono clients; they set their own standards for qualifying for pro bono work, but sometimes it's easier to meet those than you'd think. And sometimes attorneys can convince the firm to take on a client pro bono; so you want to ask a sympathetic attorney directly and maybe he/she will go to bat.<BR/><BR/>vanilla: I think it's hilarious you're trying to snag web traffic <I>here</I> :} I was positive you had way more readers than I did. Dude, you're on Alltop. Oh....maybe that's how you did it....;} Crap. And I see it worked too! Don Mills Diva stopped by...I've lost her forever......<BR/><BR/>merecat: you're welcome.<BR/><BR/>Don Mills Diva: I'll be spending all of my time trolling over at Becky's blog (she asked first), so I'll see if I can find someone to cover my shift at yours for me. :}<BR/><BR/>loralee: Now <I>that's</I> what you use a C&D for. Note to self: don't post anything as a fake public official again...<BR/><BR/>FADKOG: I hate the fact that being yelled at, or even spoken to, by an attorney about something can inspire butteflies and weak knees. Thank my stars that Emily is an attorney; I have an inside scoop on the way lawyers think when they are representing their clients. And once that curtain is pulled aside it's easy to see that the wizard is an unimpressive little man. It's the flying monkeys you have to watch out for, and they work for someone else.<BR/><BR/>stefania: oh my, did I say that? :}<BR/><BR/>carolyn b: My style is subject to change without notice. No refunds will be given. Please contact costumer service if you'd like to be ignored in 3 languages. ;}<BR/><BR/>mamique: Ah, you sussed it out. When Stefanie sent me the check for 93 cents to "bad mouth" MomLogic I thought "Gee, wouldn't it be easier for them to just buy some ad space through BlogHer or something?" But no, they wanted the controversy! Oh, the drama. Heh. (I'd actually love to see someone run a marketing campaign like that. I might actually buy whatever they are selling, because that kind of self-confidence is just sexy as hell.)<BR/><BR/>lil sass: I hope you get a threatening letter. You could use it as a placemat, or fold it up into a really tiny square and stick it under a table leg to level it. They're good for all kinds of things, even if they aren't any good at all for communicating with people.Backpacking Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498905428420679901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-21436500071157198502008-05-27T23:02:00.000-07:002008-05-27T23:02:00.000-07:00Man, the blogosphere seems to be really connected ...Man, the blogosphere seems to be really connected today. As I am "making my rounds" tonight, your post connects to my post today. Long story short, I posted about a certain food product. Someone from the company who makes said food product visited my site (love that statcounter) for well over an hour today. Clearly I can't tell if it's some lacky intern who googled "fiber one bar" or the VP of Suing Bloggers but holy shit .... AM I GONNA GET A THREATENING LETTER? aaahhhhh!<BR/>Rock on BP Dad, Stephanie and keep fighting the power, bloggers. So long as your words are honest, you've got the right to say whatever you damn well please. I mean, this IS America, right?LilSasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06904517936441186426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-64930748802883447022008-05-27T19:27:00.000-07:002008-05-27T19:27:00.000-07:00I'm sensing a conspiracy here, lol!Is this MomLogi...I'm sensing a conspiracy here, lol!<BR/><BR/>Is this MomLogic's way of advertising? I've never heard of them before I read about them on Stefanie's blog, and now, yours. <BR/><BR/>I'm not falling for it! I will not go to check out their site, lol.<BR/><BR/>BTW, I only recently discovered your blog and I love it!Mamiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04504817591381743219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-67114251960940919072008-05-27T15:49:00.000-07:002008-05-27T15:49:00.000-07:00Huh. I thought the domain name "MomLogic" sounded ...Huh. I thought the domain name "MomLogic" sounded pretty cool, but I don't think I'll bother them with my traffic now; bullies aren't appealing.<BR/><BR/>Earlier, I saw the link in my feed reader about Stefanie's response post about the C&D letter and, like you, was disappointed that it was deleted before I could satisfy my curiosity. But I understand why she might want to pick her battles, too.<BR/><BR/>On the plus side, I'm now subscribed to your blog like I already was to Stefanie's. I like your style. :o)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-79035979018716741252008-05-27T15:23:00.000-07:002008-05-27T15:23:00.000-07:00MomLogic--weren't they the site that had the forum...MomLogic--weren't they the site that had the forum with Hillary Clinton then asked her asinine questions like what kind of pizza did you order in the white house?<BR/><BR/>When I read Stefanie's post I was appalled not only at their treatment of her, but that a web company would choose to handle that situation like they did in this day and age of social media. If I had a nickel for everytime a blogger ranted about a company...A C&D letter? Really? That tells me a lot about how much they DON'T get it.<BR/><BR/>PS This is the third instance I've heard of them screwing bloggers over. But, like you say, that's what dicks do.Stefania/CityMamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01949057289956579802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-27433993308936487802008-05-27T14:56:00.000-07:002008-05-27T14:56:00.000-07:00This is a great post, and not just because you use...This is a great post, and not just because you used the words "supreme douchebaggery," which I loved and you should know I plan to use at any opportunity, be they appropriate or not!<BR/><BR/>I've never heard of this MomsLogic site, nor can I say I have a great deal of interest in clicking over there from here. I will, however, look forward to reading Stephanie's site. I find the bullying tactic to be vile. When I edited a small community newspaper, I remember getting a telephone call from some big city attorney about a story I wrote very carefully and factually that hadn't been in print more than a day. She yelled and threatened and yelled some more at me on behalf of her client, the subject of the article, until I finally had to hang up the phone on her. I admit, it was a nerve shaking experience, and in the end, I never heard from her again, but it leaves you questioning your abilities, and that's a part that bites a supreme douchebag.<BR/><BR/>(eh, my usage so not as awesome as yours!)for a different kind of girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04431273646365489225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-85261840592388833152008-05-27T14:50:00.000-07:002008-05-27T14:50:00.000-07:00I've been a victim of libel and it wasn't fun.(Som...I've been a victim of libel and it wasn't fun.<BR/><BR/>(Some asshat on a forum kept posting his name as a local public official and said that I gave him sexual favors. I threatened to sue if it wasn't taken down. You know, REAL libel, not "I don't like your opinion of me" that this momlogic thing smacks of).<BR/><BR/>If she wasn't lying and was truthfully portraying her opinion of the situation, she should be allowed to keep her post up.<BR/><BR/><BR/>PERIOD, THE END.<BR/><BR/>Supreme douchebaggery, indeed.Loralee Choatehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16055102094371755499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-52224236009715730932008-05-27T13:55:00.000-07:002008-05-27T13:55:00.000-07:00I'm with Whit - I've never heard of MomLogic, ergo...I'm with Whit - I've never heard of MomLogic, ergo it must be totally lame.<BR/><BR/>And also with Becky - isn't bad press still press? Doesn't MomLogic have the smarts or the guts to realize that?<BR/><BR/>Oh what I wouldn't give for a troll or a cease or desist letter I could sink my teeth into. I blogged about my dust-up with McDonals back in February and it was AWESOME.Don Mills Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03733674458423525738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-775208920171527729.post-57908369694104433352008-05-27T13:06:00.000-07:002008-05-27T13:06:00.000-07:00Momlogic just pansied out of it in my opinion. Th...Momlogic just pansied out of it in my opinion. That post shouldn't have been enough to freak 'em out if they were worth much to begin with.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for sticking up for our Stef!MereCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03443158111826174633noreply@blogger.com